Bundokji wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:05 pm
However, not all Muslims are islamists.
This is THE mistake all leftists do. We've seen that constantly here. Taqqiya is the key word. Get an education and find out what it means. You most certainly have no clue about it.
I noticed that you keep on using hasty generalizations, probably due to your lack of knowledge.
English is not my language. I'm doing my best. I am sincerely sorry not to be at the level of such a grandiose genius as you. You definitely have something to compensate, right?
For example, new immigrants might have weaker identification with the nation and culture than older immigrants who got more integrated.
This is both lack of knowledge and lack of intelligence of the facts. Typical leftist approach. You guys have a problem with facts, they can't enter your little boxes. Safe space is crucial for ye guys, hey?
In my travels, i met French people from north African ancestors and who are Muslims.
Can't always find nice people, right?
They are unrecognizable from the typical French in terms of they way they dress and behave and emphasis on their French identity.
Your lack of connection to reality makes you make big mistakes, starting with generalizing from your ridiculously limited experience.
What is mansplaining?
Leftits mantra you should know by now: google is your friend.
What deadly propaganda?
Oh this is pitiful. Koran. Did you read it? Did you read the hadith? You sound like you generalize without knowledge, a trademark of people from your political side.
Your input thus far is pretty pedestrian and low in quality.
Just trying to be factual, to make sure you understand. That's called pedagogy.
In my reply to the OP, i explained and discussed why. Did you read the previous discussion before jumping in?
I was reiterating the question because you don't obviously understand the question. And you don't understand why.
You are avoiding addressing the point i made. this is what i said:
No, I'm just highlighting the disgusting nature of your reflection on the issue. To me you just sound disgusting and not willing to understand (for lack of capacities obviously) the problem at stake.
How about the French history in colonies? How many people were killed in Algeria and elsewhere? Human history is often not very pleasant.
I'm not advocating colonialism. But if you want to go by numbers, how many people in the history of humanity were killed by muslims since the 7th century? You are just ridiculous. Still need to compensate, that's hilarious...
Again, you are avoiding the main point, that a certain interpretation of what it means to be French do not put Islam on equal footing with other traditions that is being caricatured.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
How about the French who assisted the Nazis after the occupation of France? Human history is often not very pleasant
I am not defending collaborationists nor colonialists. You have a binary bias, typical of leftists. But you are defending a political system (islam) that does not tolerate others. And stop mansplaining with your pathetical statement "Human history...", you do not seem to know much about the issue at stake.
Why you keep referring to me as a leftist?
It's because your think like one. You attack people with hatred like a leftist. You do not tolerate others' opinion. Basically you're a fascist leftist. So common these days...
You seem to be quite robotic and predictable.
You like to put people into little boxes, like portraying me as a SJW, you could not be more mistaken (but it's your trademark, right?)
You parrot the way amateurs discuss politics on the internet.
You have no way to know that. I hate politics and people who think they know it all, mansplaining in order to compensate. That's pathetic.
You can do better than that.
As I said above, I'm trying my best to stay at your level, making sure you understand clearly everything in a perspective that you are not accustomed to: subtleties
What made you think that i am presenting a position of defending Muslims? Stop being defensive.
How am I defensive? Stop telling people what they have to do. What makes me think you defend muslims? Well, the vagueness (essentially factless rantings) of your argumentation, with generalizing statements that have no connection to reality, starting by presenting muslims as not being islamists, which is THE argumentation of all those who have not studied the hadiths and have no clue at taqqiya. Most evidently, you lack the basic culture and knowledge to discuss facts regarding what is unfolding with muslims in France, but as a mansplaining specialist, you think you know it all. Hilarious again. Thanks for having made that first day of our 2nd lockdown such an hilarious dialogue which shows one can have some funny ends of the day with blatantly uneducated people. Thanks again.